Response to Heinze 1OK, Chris.....
(Chapter 4) "Answers to My Mormon Friends," ©2001 by Thomas F. Heinze
Quote retained for posterity, as when I have time I will most likely host this rebuttal elsewhere.
Which was Joseph Smith...A Prophet of God? Or a Fraud? Since the eternal destiny of Mormons rests upon the life and teachings of this one man, it is critical that the facts be presented so the question can be correctly answered.
This is quite ironic, as the church holds that anyone, regardless of religion, stands an equal chance of getting into Heaven so long as they lived a good, righteous life.
Joseph Smith was born on December 23, 1805. The Encyclopedia Britannica describes his early years: "He was a literate but unschooled lad from a large family, and his neighbors at Palmyra, N.Y. remembered him as a diviner who dug for buried treasure."1
Already I'm noting a few issues.
1. The Britannica fails to mention that treasure seeking was a common endeavour in that time and place, as the Burned-Over Dis
Lay Your Burden On MeLay your burden on me.
Tell me your problems. Lay your burdens on me. These old bones won't break so easily. They'll hold my weight and yours.
Feel free to tell me your troubles. We can talk as long as you need to. It's not like I really sleep as it is.
Don't worry about crying into my chest. Tears won't harm anything so long as you don't keep them inside.
Then when you're done, I still won't leave you. I'll carry you off, tuck you into bed, and sing you to sleep. Have pleasant dreams; I'm on guard tonight.
I know the pain and misery; life's been rough on me as well. That's why we need to cherish those moments that are special. Cherish your dreams. Cherish your goals. Never forget who and what you are. Never forget that you have someone out there standing behind you.
I've seen my own blood. I've faced my own fears. I've taken many a sling and arrow that would have slain another. I've been through that tunnel and found the light at the end. Let me try to guide you.
Lay your burdens on m
Response to Ed Decker no. 2http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0d1HbItOo
*As a rule of thumb, anything which says "we're going to show you what Mormon theology is all about" that doesn't come from a church-sanctioned source needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
*The bit about "Mormonism teaches that there are billions of plants ruled by countless Gods" is hokum. Next to nothing has been handed down concerning this concept.
The only half-way accurate statement is that we do, indeed, believe that a person who is indeed righteous can potentially ascend to a state similar to that of a diety.
*While it is accepted that Heavenly Father likewise was one of those ascended people, nothing more has been said about it. What you see in the film is, at best, speculative and therefore should be ignored.
*I've yet to see anything explicitly stating that Heavenly Father has multiple wives. While LDS belief is that Heavenly Father is married, that's the extent of present teachings.
*The "endless celestial sex" line is so false as
Response to Chick 2A Response to:
There Go The Dinosaurs!
Oh gee, it looks like theres a brand new Chick Tract in the world. This time, Chick is taking it upon himself to discuss things related to dinosaurs and how they met their fate. But as usual, he instead produces another piece of inaccurate kitsch.
The tract starts by having some primitive people, most likely people from the Middle Ages, locating, hunting, and killing a dinosaur; they call it a dragon. The dinosaur thought that itd be safe so long as it made it up to the clouds, but only her head was in the clouds and so she was killed; I find this quite ironic, as Chick himself often seems to have his head in the clouds. Note that one of the people has the exaggerated facial features and attire ascribed to the stereotypical Middle Easterner, yet the scenery appears to be a mountain near a forest. Also, when discussing all the meat that they got, the
Response to Chick 1[quote name='Lord Galvatron' date='Aug 14 2007, 02:22 PM' post='713406']
[url="http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0061/0061_01.asp"]Here's a Chick tract about Mormonism.[/url]
1. Chick tries to assert that the Bible says "God is a Spirit." What he fails to mention is that this rendering is exclusive to the King James version and those versions immediately based off of it.
The Revised Standard Edition, for instance, states "God is Spirit," without that definite article.
No definite article = Chick's literalist interpretation goes down in flames. Why? Without the definite article, one could argue for a metaphorical definition.
2. The Journal of Discourses and The Seer are not considered canonical works, and your average Mormon has probably not even read them. Trying to use them as a base for Mormon doctrine is highly misleading.
3. Chick gets so upset about the statement that if God walked through the aisles no one would notice him that he fails to realize Jesus himself